Making both the structure and trappings of government truly secular is the best way to ensure everybody has real religious freedom, which entails not merely an absence of persecution, but also full inclusion.
I'm a pretty committed atheist, which, since "The God Delusion" made the bestseller list, everybody seems to think is the equivalent of being anti-religious. But I'm not. I studied religion at university because I'm fascinated by it, and despite all my scepticism, I honestly believe that religious faith and structure contributes very positively to most societies most of the time.
Nearly everybody on the planet has some kind of religious or spiritual beliefs. Even people who go to great lengths to deny they are religious, when pressed for the specifics of their belief system will normally reveal some leaning that disqualifies them as an atheist, which by my definition is not just somebody who doesn't believe in any particular religion, but someone who is also both a monist and materialist.
To demonstrate, let's imagine we conducted a worldwide poll on the question, "do you believe in at least one of the following: a God, Gods, an afterlife, or the soul"? then global public opinion would concur in saying I was wrong.
If we conducted a poll that got any more specific, then there'd be hardly any consensus on anything, and of course it is these differences which can ignite wily passions.
As I am so spectacularly outnumbered, I've tried to consider that I might be wrong, and concluded I'm not. However, along the way I've developed a much more inclusive attitude toward religion and spirituality.
So, I'm a friendly atheist. I'm all for freedom of religious expression. What I am quite annoying and uptight about is secularism.
Mark Metherell published a short piece in the Sydney Morning Herald on Monday 26th October 2008 which drew my attention to the fact that apparently someone had the good sense to suggest we remove the recital of the Lord's prayer from the opening of Parliament; in response to which Rudd and Turnbull have shown a united front in opposition.
Metherell's article said that, "The Lord's Prayer is a longstanding Parliamentary tradition and The Prime Minister believes it should continue".
He quotes Mr Turnbull as saying, "Opening the Australian Parliament each day with the Lord's Prayer is an important reminder of our shared humanity and a reference to the words of our constitution when humbly relying on the blessing of almighty God we established the Commonwealth of Australia over 100 years ago".
and,
"The Lord's Prayer has a very important place in the conduct of the parliamentary program...it provides a non-partisan reaffirmation of our commitment to the common good for the people of Australia."
Frankly, I expected more from both of them.
Neither of these men are parochial types. I think they both probably realise that reciting the Lord's Prayer is not a symbol of non-partisanship for all Australians. It would only be a symbol of non-partisanship if everybody was either a Catholic or a Protestant.
Australia's religiosity is much more rich and diverse than that.
I understand that traditions are comforting. Even with a complete lack of belief, a Catholic funeral service still has the power to bring me great consolation: it provides a familiar way to ritualise grief. It's comforting to me because I was raised in that tradition, the symbols are unlikely to bear the same emotional weight for someone from a different heritage.
Continuing to open Parliament with the Lord's prayer subtly reinforces a tribalism which I feel is really restrictive to Australia's ability to produce more truly representative government.
Yes, it's a longstanding, well-established tradition: so was denying Aborigines the vote until a few decades ago. Being part of the establishment doesn't bear any weight upon the argument the tradition should be continued.
Of course, it is correct that the current tradition is linked to our heritage as part of the Commonwealth. Might I add, not just our heritage but, also our present day system. This is actually the one reason that makes sense to me as to why it should stay (for the moment); as long as the head of The Church of England remains our head of state it would be churlish to remove their prayer from parliamentary ceremony.
Both Rudd & Turnbull have been pretty candid about their own personal religious beliefs, so it is tempting to accuse them of being influenced by them; but I'm not convinced that's the motivation for either of them. Instead I suspect that their shared commitment to retain the institution of the Lord's Prayer has more to do with them both coming from the same place as politicians rather than as Christians.
Remember, most of the world disagrees with my basic starting point on this one. I feel pretty confident this is one of those issues where most voters couldn't care less - but if push came to shove would be in favour of keeping it, a sizeable minority would be passionately in favour of keeping it, and then there are a handful of people like myself who feel strongly about removing it.
For my ilk, it's not a burning issue, but I'm sure it is for many in the camp that want to keep it. So, playing by numbers, there's no question which side to take.
The ideal of opening each sitting of parliament with a non-partisan statement of belief in a higher purpose or goal, and a moment of reflection upon the seriousness and solemn responsibility of the task ahead is a good one. I'd like to suggest we replace the Lord's prayer with just such a statement. In order to be meaningful to all Australians it will need to be inclusive.
Any suggestions?
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A small link is still a link.
Separation of Church and State is important -- I've often argued it's just as important for the Church as for the State. Personally I like the Lord's Prayer, but there's no getting around the fact that it is based in the Christian faith. As to a replacement suggestion, I don't have one and don't think you're likely to find one that people agree on.
More to the point, I don't think it would make any difference. I think saying the Lord's Prayer at the opening of parliament doesn't do much to link Church and State because the vast majority of people probably ignore it. Any ritual repeated over and over tends to lose its meaning, and most politicians -- Christian or not -- probably spend the time thinking about other things. And if we change it, the same will happen. Mind you, if the vote came to change it (and I didn't violently disagree with the replacement) I'd be in favour -- the Lord's Prayer people should say when they mean it, not something they should be ignoring as a minor irritant. And small as the link between Church and State is, there's no good reason for it and it should be removed.
Bad for the Church too...very good point.
Thanks JEQP for highlighting another reason for removing it which hadn't even occured to me. Of course it is a also a missappropriation of soemthing that is sacred to believers. See, I do try to be as inclusive as posible myself but often what matters to other people completely goes over the top of my head! I'll keep trying. Thanks for the perspective.
Nope
I'm an atheist too, but I don't think that, after a hundred years, the Lords Prayer should be replaced with some kind of vacuous happy clappy statement so 'inclusive' that it's devoid of all meaning. If you truly wanted a 'secular' approach in government then you'd be also opposing any state or commonwealth funding of any project which promoted or validated aborigine spiritualism - but we both know that wouldn't be politically correct and so hell will freeze over before that happens.
As it is even you don't even want the Lords Prayer removed, seeing as the head of the Church of England is Australia's monarch, so as you oppose your own idea as 'churlish' and agree that it's hardly a 'burning issue' and that the vast majority of Australians would disagree with you, I'm not quite sure what the point of this is.
Hi Nick
In response to Nick.
Firstly, a "happy clappy" appproach was exactly the opposite of what I had in mind.
Secondly, including religious symbols in official civic occassions and government funding of organisations which are affiliated with religious groups are two entirely seperate issues.
As for your idea that "any project that promotes or validates aborigine (sic) spiritualism" is so protected by "political correctness" that it is unlikely to loose government support unless "hell freezes over", well I'd like to sugggest that there is a much greater chance of a few small Indigenous programs loosing their funding than there is of church administrated charities and private schools loosing their's.
Did hell freeze over when ATSIC was dismantled?
Thirdly, please excuse me for responding to the arguments Rudd & Turnbull had given for keeping the tradition and admitting that the issue was complex, I'm sorry if it confused you. I do think it would be churlish to remove the trappings of the Monarchy without becominig a republic first. No, it's not a "burning issue" for voters, but that doesn't mean it doesn't matter: populist politicking and representative politicking are not the same art form.
Lord 's prayer....
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Feel free to be amused Foggy ! And, yes, more fascinated than ever.
Do Atheists pray?
Many years ago I worked in some fairly out of the way places, and during my long drives from where I lived to these places; usually in the dead of night, I would listen to whatever radio station I could pick up. I almost gave up that practice when one night a Very Right Wing Christian Agent came on in one of the seemingly obligatory religious programs, and wanted to know why the United Nations started a session with a minutes reflective silence and not a prayer. He then went on to denounce anything other than the christian religion. Needless to say I immediately searched for another station.
It drove home to me the fact that right wing extremists of any religion are intolerent of anything that does not fit in with their narrow view of life.
I say I am an Atheist although I do believe in something. It may be the "Force" but then again it may be the same god others believe in, but it is a far more tolerent god than most of theirs. Ask anyone in Australia if they believe in god, and most will say yes, then ask them if they regularly attend church, and most will say no. So does belief in god require regular church attendance, or are these the new atheists?
Experience tells me Atheists have a greater knowledge of religion in general, and are more tolerant that non-Atheists, which should enrage many religious people, but lets face it, how many wars are fought in god's name, and how many countries claim to have god on their side in any conflict. You don't hear them claim allegience to a not-god, or say they are fighting for their not-beliefs.
The Lord's Prayer is not a requirement of good government, but it could be seen as a requirement of a biased, or even bigotted government. Everyone should be permitted to believe in what they think is right, and forcing people, even MPs to join in something that they may not believe in or is not how they would celebrate their god is not right.
Before someone questions my ability to pick a Very Right Wing Christian Agent, I was in an online forum where there were several, and they are intolerent. I didn't know what VRWCA stood for when I saw it as one persons online nickname after they joined, but what it stood for was explained to me very forceably shortly after. I prefer to think for myself, so after suffering for my belief to state my case I decided it better that I left. I suppose that's one way of getting rid of us Athiests.
Delete the Prayer
A good an timely article...
I think the Lord's Prayer is an anachronism of the most disagreeable kind. Given this countries’ sometime dubious history of actions guided by a belief in religious favour, or in the mindless pursuit of what the Crown and Church of England dictates, then we are well overdue a final separation of Church and State, and indeed State and Empire. Secularism first, Republicanism second! Maybe then we can be free to pursue our own future in the absence of God or Monarch myths – it may even encourage our politicians to be that much more personally accountable..
Personal Accountability for Pollies
Yep - I think I know what you mean, are you worried praying first is like an insurance policy?