When I grow up I want to be…

| May 4, 2009

If you want to always have a job there's only one thing you'll need to learn, and that's how to keep learning.  

In the kids' film (and if you haven't seen it yet – get it on DVD) The Bee Movie, the main character (voiced by Jerry Seinfeld) is a young bee who is told he must choose a job, which he will do for his whole life. Whilst on the factory tour, this bee asks the question, "so you're gonna work us to death?" To which the tour guide replies, "we will sure try" and everyone laughs!

A lot of the jobs which will be available in 5 yrs time haven't even been thought of yet, so how can we expect high school kids to be engaged in highly specialised training and education for their future careers. We are entrenching skills which become redundant.

Instead, we should be teaching creative problem solving skills, encouraging more students to be more innovative about finding solutions. If you learn to educate yourself, and have an open mind, then you will always be able to learn how to adapt and change. 

The school system doesn't do that. It tests you on data retention rather than skills. 

In another great animated children's film Robots, the worker bots motto is "see a need – fill a need".  Now that's an efficient approach to work which we are not always programmed for. We humans tend to function according to the motto "see my skill – employ my skill"… it's not quite as enticing a proposition. Particularly when employers are looking to reduce costs.

So how do we have the right attitude to find us the work we want? It all starts with education. The last few generations, from pre boomers to Gen Y, have been educated about the importance of getting good grades, to get a "good job", which they'll be doing throughout their entire career.

Yes, we all talk about the tough times, the economic crises, and even the R word – Recession. We can sit around and moan about the government, the world leaders, and those greedy bankers who sent the entire world down the drain.

Or, we can sit down, and think about what brought us here? Could it really be the responsibility of a few individuals? Or, maybe the entire approach of the last 80 odd years, ever since the last major recession in the '30s was wrong? I'm inclined to take the second approach. I truly believe that our system was faulty all along. It's not just our economic policies which have been wrong, something a bit rotten has been running through the whole of western society, reflected in the priorities of our education systems.

Raz Chorev has 15 years of sales and marketing experience, from small businesses to corporates.  During his sales career, Raz discovered that People Buy People, not just products. Raz's real passion is to help other people become more attractive to others- to their potential customers, to future employers, or even to their social environment. Working with Australia's leading People Marketing agency, Buzzle, Raz has co-founded JobCamp, an initiative to Get Australia Working.  

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  1. Nick Mallory

    May 9, 2009 at 11:30 am

    What’s the deal with economics?

    Instructive though the social and economic lessons of box office bombs like Bee Movie may be, perhaps a quick peek at reality might be even better.  We haven't had a major world depression for 80 years and that's because the economic system was faulty all along?  Really?  Doesn't the lack of subsequent depressions and the massive growth in living standards and wealth for ordinary people since the thirties prove that the system has been a success?  If the economic policies of the rich and consumerist capitalist West have been wrong all this time, what exactly have been the right ones?  The USSR?  North Korea?  Zimbabwe?  Do tell.

    It's all very well saying that education shouldn't be about 'data retention' in this age of google and wikipedia but what if that data forms the basis of numeracy, literacy and rationality?  How can one exercise these much vaunted "skills" if one doesn't know the "data"  of how to do long division or enough about a subject to examine it critically in an essay?  Since when is the ability to retain data not vital in any job, regardless of what it might be?  Doctors and lawyers and engineers don't have to learn a huge amount of material inside out and display mastery of it every day?  Really?  A bus driver needs the skill of being able to drive, but he also needs to remember his route.  

    Exactly which high school children are engaged in "highly specialised training" for specific jobs rather than education in a broader sense?  Which school teaches its pupils how to crisp KFC burgers or open an excel spreadsheet just right six hours a day rather than English, Maths and Science?  Perhaps people would be more employable if they were freed from academic education they had no use for and allowed to study lucrative and employable trades from their mid teens rather than pile up useless and meaningless arts and humanities degrees.

    The whole point of the free market system is 'see a need, fill a need'.  That's how the 'invisible hand' works.  If you want to change that system, you're rather biting your nose to spite your face.  If you want an education system which doesn't produce grades, then you're just forcing employers to set their own tests, just as University maths courses now have to teach elementary maths to students who've been so busy learning maths 'skills' for a dozen years that they can barely count without their fingers (or a calculator) to hand. 

    As for a world recession proving the bankruptcy of capitalism as a whole, if the economy shrinks by a couple of percent this year – and that would be a huge story – that merely takes us back to how rich we were as a country in 2007.  I don't recall people starving in the streets of Sydney then, but I'm open minded if you can offer me any evidence to the contrary.

    • RonPrice

      June 1, 2009 at 6:59 am

      married for 42 years, a

      married for 42 years, a teacher for 35 and a Bahai for 50. ————– Since I have applied for some 5000 jobs from 1957 to 2007, I thought readers here might find the following overview of my experience useful.  If my post is too long moderators here should feel free to edit my comment to taste.-Ron Price, Tasmania

      ————————–

      LETTER WRITING: 2 JOB APPLICATIONS A WEEK
      FOR  50 YEARS—JOB HUNTING 1957-2007

      The 3000 word statement which follows describes my transition from employment and the job-hunting process(1957-2007) to retirement and the pursuit of a leisure life devoted to writing(1999-2009).  The years 1999 to 2007 marked the years of transition.  The information and details in my resume, a resume I no longer need or use in any direct sense in the job-hunting world after fifty years of use, but which I occasionally post here on the internet or mail to friends, should help anyone wanting to know something about my personal and professional background, my writing and my life.   This resume might be useful, in some residual capacity, but not so much to assess my suitability for some advertised or unadvertised employment position.  This resume might be useful for some readers to assess the relevance of some statements I make on the internet, statements on a wide variety of topics at a wide variety of internet sites.  If I feel there is a need for readers to have some idea of my background, my credentials and my experience; if I feel that it would be useful for them to have a personal context for my remarks at an internet site, I post that resume.

      I never apply for jobs for anymore, although I have registered at several internet sites whose role is, among other things, to help people get jobs.   Perhaps this process of registration at such sites is engaged in with some sense of nostalgia, out of habit, out of an inability to stop applying for jobs after five decades of persistent and strenuous efforts.  These decades of efforts were aimed at obtaining jobs, better jobs, jobs more suited to my talents, jobs that paid better, jobs that freed me from impossible situations that I had become involved with in some work-scene I was ensconced in–along the road of life.  I stopped applying for full-time jobs, as I say, in September 2007 and part-time ones in December 2003.   I also disengaged myself from most volunteer or casual work four years ago in 2005 so that I could occupy myself as: an independent scholar, a writer, a poet, indeed, what some might call a man of leisure in the Greek tradition.

      At the age of 64, then, on the eve of the Australian Old Age Pension, two months in fact away from that formal condition of old age, I have become self-employed as a writer-poet, an independent scholar.  I have gradually come to this role in the years after I left full-time employment in 1999, ten years ago.  Not being occupied with earning a living and giving myself to 60 hours a week on average in a job as was the case from 1982 to 1999; and not being occupied with giving many other hours to community activity, as I had been for so many years as was the case from at least 1988 to 1999, marked a turning point in my life.  I became able to devote my time to a much more extensive involvement in writing and reading material of my own choice.

      Writing is for most of its votaries a solitary, hopefully stimulating, but not always pleasurable leisure-time, part-time or full-time pursuit.  In my case in these first years(60-65) of late adulthood(60-80), writing and its companion activity research and reading has become full-time about 60 hours a week.   This activity is for me and for the most part an enriching and enjoyable pursuit.  I have replaced my former paid employment and extensive activity with people in community with a form of work which is also a form of leisure, namely, as I say: writing and reading—independent scholarship.

      Inevitably the style of one's writing and what one reads is a reflection of the person, their experience and, often, their philosophy.  On occasion, I set out a summary of my writing, my employment experience, my resume, in an attachment to this brief essay, this introductory statement, this commentary on the job application process which occupied my life for five decades: 1957-2007.   If as that famous, although not always highly regarded, psychologist Carl Jung writes: we are what we do, then some of what I was and am can be found in that attachment, that resume and its several appendices.  That document may seem over-the-top as they say these days since it now occupies some 30 pages and many more pages if the appendices are also included.

      Half a century of various forms of employment as well as community, leisure and volunteer activity in the professional and not-so-professional world, all this time in many places produced a great pile of stuff. It also produced what used to be called by several different names: one’s curriculum vitae, one’s CV, one’s bio-data sheet or one’s resume.  This document is now, at least as I see it, more of a lifeline, a life-narrative, a memoir, an autobiography-of-sorts.   As I say, I make the list of this stuff available to readers of this account, this essay, when appropriate, when requested and, occasionally, when not appropriate.  I update those many pages to include recent writing projects I have completed or am in the process of completing during these first years of my retirement from full-time, part-time and most volunteer activity.
       
      My resume has always been the piece of writing, the statement, the document, the entry ticket which has opened up the possibilities of another adventure, another bit of gadding about, another slice of a quasi-pioneering, peripatetic existence, a moving from town to town, from one state or province to another, from one country to another, one piece of God's, or gods', earth to another piece of it.  And so it was that I was able to come to work in another organization, gain entry to another portion of my life and enjoy or not enjoy a new world.  

      The process, I often thought, was not unlike a modern form of a traditional rite-de-passage. To some extent I came to take on what often seemed like another personality, another me in the long road to discover if, indeed, there was a Real Me underneath all this coming and going.  I'm sure this process will continue, will also be the case in all its many forms in these years of my late adulthood(60-80) and old age(80++) should, for some reason, movement to yet another place or, indeed, from place to place be necessary to continue for some reason I can not, as yet, anticipate.  This continued movement, though, seems highly unlikely as I go through these early years(60-65) of late adulthood and head into the last stages of my life, from sunset and early evening to night’s first hours and then, finally, the last hours of night, the final syllables of my recorded time.  This process, this rite de passage expressed in the form of yet another job in another place seems, for the moment, to have come to an end. Time, of course, will tell.

      The last five years(60-65) are as I indicated above the first ones of late adulthood, a period developmental psychologists call the years from 60 to 80.  In this first decade of my retirement(1999 to 2009), I have been able to write to a much greater extent than I had ever been able to do in those years of my early(1965-1984) and middle(1984-1999) adulthood when job, family and the demands of various community projects kept my nose to the grindstone as they say colloquially in many parts of the world.   With the final unloading of much of the volunteer work which I took on when I first retired, in the years from 1999 to 2005;  with the gradual cessation of virtually the entire apparatus and process of job-application by 2007; with my last child having left home in 2005; with a more settled home environment than I’ve ever had by 2007 and with a new medication for the bipolar disorder that afflicted my life since my teens, also by 2007, the remaining years of my late adulthood beckon bright with promise.  My resume reflects the shift in role, in my lifespan activity-base and lists the many writing projects I’ve been able to complete in this first decade of independent scholarship and full-time writing.

      The process of frequent moves and frequent jobs which was my pattern for fifty years, 1949 to 1999, is not everyone's style, modus operandi or modus vivendi.  Many millions of people live and die in the same town, city or state and their life's adventure takes place within that physical region, the confines of a relatively small place, a domain, a bailiwick as politicians often call their electorate.  Such people and other types as well often have very few jobs in their lifetime. Physical movement is not essential to psychological and spiritual growth, nor is a long list of jobs, although a great degree of inner change, extensive inner shifting, is inevitable from a person’s teens through to their late adulthood even if they sat all their lives on the head of a pin, one of the theologico-philoso–
      phical metaphors associated with angels and often used in medieval times.  

      This process of extensive change is even more true in the recent decades of our modern age at this climacteric of history in which change is about the only thing one can take as a constant–or so we are often led to believe because it is so often said in the electronic media.  For many millions of people during the half century 1957 to 2007, my years of being jobbed and applying for jobs, the world was their oyster, not so much in the manner of a tourist, although there was plenty of that, but rather in terms of working lives which came to be seen increasingly in a global context.

      This was true for me during those years when I was looking for amusement, education and experience, some stimulating vocation and avocation, some employment security and comfort,  my adventurous years in a new form of travelling-pioneering, globe-trotting, pathfinding of sorts, as part of history’s long story, my applying-for-job days, some five decades from the 1950s to the first decade of the new millennium.  My resume altered many times, of course, during those fifty years.  It is now, for the most part and as I indicated above, not used in these years of my retirement and especially since 2007, except as an information and bio-data vehicle for interested readers, 99.9% of whom are on the internet at its plethora of sites.

      This document, as I say above, a document that used to be called a curriculum vitae or a CV, until the 1970s, at least in the region where I lived and dwelled and had my being, is a useful backdrop for those examining my writing, especially my poetry.  Some poets and writers, artists and creative people in many fields, though, regard their CV, resume, bio-data, lifeline, life-story, life-narrative, personal background as irrelevant, simply not necessary for people to know, in order for them to appreciate their artistic work.   These people take the philosophical, indeed, somewhat religious position, that they are not what they do or, to put it a little differently and a little more succinctly, "they are not their jobs."

      I frequently use this resume at various internet locations on the World Wide Web when I want to provide some introductory background on myself.  I could list many new uses after decades of a use which had a multifactorial motivational base: to help me get a job, to get a new job, to help me make more money, to enrich my experience and to add something refreshing to my life as it was becoming increasingly stale for so many reasons in the day-to-day grind, to help me get away from supervisors and from situations I could not handle or were a cause of great stress, to help me flee from settings where my health was preventing me from continuing successfully in my job, to help me engage in new forms of adventure, pioneering, amusement, indeed, to help me survive life’s tests in the myriad forms that afflict the embattled spirit, et cetera, et cetera, inter alia, inter alia, inter alter, inter alter.

      The use of the resume always saved me from having to reinvent the wheel, so to speak.  One could photocopy it and mail it out with the covering letter to anyone and everyone.  The photocopier became a common feature of the commercial, business and government world in the 1960s just as I began to send out the first of the literally thousands of job applications that I would over the next forty years: 1967-2007.  One didn’t have to write the application out each time; one did not have to “say it again Sam” in resume after resume to the point of utter tedium.  The photocopier itself evolved as did the gestetner, one of the photocopier’s predecessors. 

      There were many ways one could copy one's basic data.  For a time, my mother used to type applications for me.  I became entrenched in the job market in the 1960s. This entrenchment was so very much like trench-warfare back in that Great War of 1914 to 1918–when millions died, were simply mowed down on the European continent in a process whose meaning we have yet to fully plumb.  But, however little or much we have come to understand the meaning and significance of WW1, we–my generation–have come to experience a new warfare.  As Henry Miller, one of the first to get away with using the "F" word in his trilogy: Sexus, Nexus and Plexus, expressed back in 1941 the new warfare of my generation: "a war far more terrible than the destruction" of the first two wars, the first two phases, with fires that "will rage until the very foundations of this present world crumble."  It is not my intention to document any of these three phases of the destructive calamity that visited humankind in the century I have just left, for this documentation has been done in intimate detail elsewhere, both visually, orally and in print.  I do not document but I frequently refer to these three phases. I have different purposes here than mere historical documentation. My job application process was clearly, at least as I look back over half a century of the process, part of that third war.

      Applying for jobs as extensively as I did in the days before the email and the internet came on board in the early 1990s, became an activity, for me, that sometimes resembling a dry-wretch.  Four to five thousand job applications from 1957 to 2007 is a lot of applications!  At least since the mid-1990s, a few clicks of one’s personal electronic-computer system and some aspect of life’s game could go on or could come to a quick end over a set of wires under the ground, the electronic world of cyberspace.  During that half-century of job-hunting years I applied, as I say, for some four to five thousand jobs, an average of two a week for each of all those years!  This is a guesstimation, of course, as accurate a guesstimation as I can calculate for this fifty year period.  The great bulk, 99.9% of those thousands of letters involved in this vast, detailed and, from time to time, exhausting and frustrating process, I did not keep.  I did keep a small handful of them, perhaps half a dozen of all those letters, in a file in my Letters: Section VII, Sub-Section X, a part of my autobiographical work which is now entitled Pioneering Over Four Epochs.

      This autobiographical work Pioneering Over Four Epochs goes for 2600 pages in five volumes and, due to its length, will not likely be read while I occupy space on this mortal coil.  Much of my autobiography, portions of it, are now found, though, on the internet at a multitude of sites where in nano-micro-seconds anyone can find portions of my writing in addition to my autobiography or my resume.  I am known in a multitude of microcosms, microworlds, miniworlds, where neither name nor fame can reach me, and where all the problems that go with any degree of celebrity status in our fame-hungry world will pass me by into cyberspace, into an electronic ether.

      Given the thousands of hours over so many years devoted to the job-hunting process; given the importance of this key to my venture across two continents, two marriages, with at least two personalities being the bipolar person that I am; given that this new style of pioneering, voyaging-via-employment, venture in our time has been at the core of my life with so much that has radiated around this core; given the amount of paper produced, the amount of energy expended and the amount of money earned and spent in this great exercise of survival; given the amount of writing done in the context of those various jobs,  some of this employment-related correspondence seemed to warrant a corner in the written story of my life.  

      It seemed appropriate, at least it was my desire as I recently entered the years when I no longer applied for jobs, to write this short statement(“not short enough,” I can hear the say) fitting all those thousands of unkept resumes and job-applications into a larger context as well as all those letters, emails and internet posts written in connection with trying to make connections with others, into some larger framework of action and meaning.   For those who would like to read more on this theme, I invite them to go to the internet site: Baha’i Library Online>Secondary Source Material>Personal Letters>The Letters of RonPrice: 1957-2007.  If such readers prefer, they can simple google: Ron Price Letters and more of this story will become available with only a few clicks.

      Updated on: 1/1/09
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